Las Vegas Weekly

Thanks for saying a few kind words for us geezers. I am just three times your age, so I guess I qualify. This morning I awoke with nothing to celebrate but the 140th anniversary of the Golden Spike and the opening of the Minnesota fishing season. Now I have a smile on my face that really mystifies my cat.

Posted by: rrbill on 5/9/09 at 3:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

i guess wont read that anymore ...its getting worse inspiration wise .. .Dont be mad, i read cause i like but u used to be more inspired and less trash .. Or maybe its just me ...

Posted by: natkingcolebasket on 5/10/09 at 7:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Well, hello Justice. I've finally registered so I may comment.
That was such an honest insightful look at the true professionalism we must have to endure such "dirty old men". And they love to be called just that for they don't like to waste time. I'm identified. They're identified. Game is on. However, because of their lack of candidness, they are a bit overzealous in my experience.
So, your writing is more than fabulous. We share a same profession and I am positive, a few particular environments, and many of the same perspectives. I read your blog weekly (and I don't read often). I love it. You speak from the "erotic entertainer's" soul. Thank you. Keep up the great writing. And kudos to your editors.

Posted by: SemiSecretStripper on 5/10/09 at 2:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

rrbill:

I'm glad I could make you smile! Thanks for all the great feedback. It makes me smile.

natkingcolebasket:

What, specifically, do you mean by "trash"? Is the topic trash or are you saying I am trash? Either way, I'd love to hear more.

SemiSecretStripper:

You are too kind! Thanks so much for reading. I look forward to more of your comments.

Posted by: Justice_4_all on 5/11/09 at 6:21 a.m. (Suggest removal)

NO, ur not trash never seen u nor met u im not that judgemental my girlfriend is a dancer herslef so no not trash...
It smore the topic, as u said in one of ur blogs u have the ability to have somewhere else in ur mind when u dance and not been grossed out by a lot of things but that is hard to me... Im sorry old men telling u those kidn of stuff just are ahrd for me.

I feel sad and sorry for them and maybe it makes u laugh or maybe im th estupid one but i can understand where ur coming from and it makes u laugh but i just find those men gross..

Age does not excuse those things, i mean im not completly stupid i know what guys say in the clubs, regardless of their age but to me a good experience should not be about that, it should be enjoying ur beauty , enjoying the dance and thats it not talking trash to the dancer, not askign her out or propose sex for money ...

Becuase that is the true value of dancers: there are lots of pretty women on earth but not many decide to do this job which makes it a great experience for men who feel like they are in a candy store

Again i dotn think ur trash and i have lots of respect for how able u can be to hear and see or those things and not let them affect you.

I just like ur blogs more when u speak your heart out talk about deeper things, about poeple how certain girls can be ugly though pretty inside (cc fraud), bout how u feel ...

Just my thought :)

Posted by: natkingcolebasket on 5/11/09 at 7:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)

natkingcolebasket:

I forgot to express how incredibly grateful old men are for my services. I feel like I improved their days when I work with them. It's rewarding work sometimes.
In general, they're not perverts. They're sweethearts that carry around sexual thoughts like any other human being. Along with talking about finger banging, they tell me a lot of other things about themselves and their lives in general. It is much harder for me to hear about their dead wives and a lifetime of suffering than to hear about their kinky fantasies.
The people I find "gross" as you say, are the people who hate and abuse women but can still find pleasure in my services. Those people creep me out.

Posted by: Justice_4_all on 5/11/09 at 9:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Mmmm i would totally agree on that ... However i sort of, if i were a girl;), would also be grossed out by men , good looking or not who would consider me as a trophy just because im pretty hence putting some kind of price tag on me, buying love ...

HAveing a girlfriend who is a dancer is not something i dreamt of, as lots of guys do, i just fell in love with her genuinely and it has been 4 years, sometimesim too needy ebcause i live far from her an di miss her and she has been through rough times and is more ressitant to downn times than me but she is th eonly woman i have ever loved.

So apologies if u though i meant ur trashm i dont judge ppl... I work in finance, and have seen horrible souls in this business, where greed, power , and ego are everything so id not let myself judge anyone, i know this job with those economics times and the dram is not easy :)

XO and kudos to you :)

Posted by: natkingcolebasket on 5/11/09 at 9:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)

"Adult Entertainers" as you want to be called are basically two groups - those that prey on old guys and those that don't. Though being an 'old guy' now I have a different perspective because I have been associated with adult clubs since 1975, meaning I have worked in and owned them. I know the game very well and it's funny when I go into one of these clubs here in Vegas and when the 'entertainers' see my grey they come rushing like vultures over a dead carcass. I have noticed in this town most 'dancers' are not too friendly, they are walking around asking when the money and booze is gone, so are they. There are chains of girls walking around asking 'would you like some company' or 'do you want a dance' instead of coming up and just start a conversation. But because everything is so focused on $$$$ in this town, everything has become hardcore. In many other markets I am well acquainted with adult bars - Texas, Florida, Georgia, Oklahoma, California, I have found 'dancers' in those markets for the most part will hang around, laugh, have some cocktails, get some dances and not try to hustle every song out of you. My observance here in Vegas is completely the opposite. Yes we know you are there to make money and I believe I can speak for alot of 'old' guys, we like to be spoken too, not hustled, don't try to get a dance on every song, stop trying to make rent in one night, you have all month to do that. There are those that cut right to the chase as do men of all ages do so there is no difference there. If you want more from us, don't push us, don't pressure us and hang around a while after the money is gone, walk us to the door, it will go along way, you don't want to be treated like a piece of meat, neither do we....

Posted by: pap1601 on 5/11/09 at 11:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I agree with pap1601 on nnumerous point regarding being hustled but this is work for those ladies, they are to be and act firendly, and get the job done.
During the week you might be able to speak more id say because it can be so slow, weekend are vital specially wit those rough tiems around, and dont forget that girls have to pay to work up to 150 a night in some clubs so it makes even harder :(

Posted by: natkingcolebasket on 5/12/09 at 4:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Wow! That is definitely blunt! I used to be the same way though. I know that the business is all about money and nothing more. How long do you plan on dancing for though? As age progresses it gets old....trust me I have seen it happen to too many girls here. I only did it for one year and had enough. I got tired of the run around and couldn't handle the late nights, alcohol, and other things that are way too easy to get into. Just have fun and when it gets old find a career, cause it WILL get old.......

Posted by: strippersoldier on 5/12/09 at 12:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

natkingcolebasket, you don't have to be female to be disgusted by those kind of men (violent objectifiers). Also, you seem to view strippers who are talked dirty to as some sort of victims. I think you'd know by know that many stripper (such as Justice) know it's all a game, and to have fun with it, as well as know they are providing a valuable socio-sexual service for "dirty old men". I can imagine myself being 60-70 and wanting to hang around with insanely hot, smart, and accommodating strippers like Justice all the time. Especially if my wife had died, and I didn't have any other close female companions. Now if they'd just legalize prostitution and cut down on the number of lonely, horny guys out there who wouldn't normally seek out such services. I honestly think the level of stress in the USA would drop a few notches if prostitution was legal and safe.

Posted by: aardvark on 5/13/09 at 8:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

A game ? Yes probably but there is nothin positive about disrespectign someone and telling her things while she dances...Old man ok but they are not the only ones proposing girl money for sex and so on...

Legalizing prostitution ? U missed my point and by far, im talking about strip club behaviours. ITs the society the goes wront the values that are wrong, youngster watch too many rap and hip hop videos, think money is power and in the end think its ok to beahve with dancers a certain way ...

ITs not everyone of course but even if girls expect things like that to happen, even if they are able to go somewhere else in their mind while they dance for a pig it is not a 9-5 job i can tell u this ...
I is hard to lcompletly blackout everything... Fortunately there are good custoemrs and good men too :)

dancers often , form my experience and i maybe wrong, like to be alone than with men because of all the bs it brings... One of Justice;s blog mentionned that about several type of girls: the ones paying and supportign a whole family, one sort of with someone who supports them financially and the girls that like to make it alone...

So maybe its all a game but talking dirty to someone is direspectful to me :(

Posted by: natkingcolebasket on 5/14/09 at 7:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)